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Sum to n terms

3.7.11.15+7.11.15.19+...................

Dont post the full solution,Maybe Hints(Like the method )

Should we use factorial things in here???

Sathya , 13 Years ago
Grade 10
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Swapnil Saxena

The biggest hint to theis problem tht the question can be done using Vn method. Search it. Try it

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Jit Mitra

Do u know the Vn method ??

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Sathya

At Swapnil Saxena : Thanks for the hint.How do u know these kinda of methods?


V-n method


V-n method is used to solve the series summation problem in the fom of :

 

1> 1/(a1*a2)  +  1/(a2*a3)  +  1/(a3*a4)  +........ upto n terms

 

2>(a1*a2)  + (a2*a3)  +  (a3*a4)  +.............upto n terms

 

where a1,a2,a3 ..... are in AP with certain common difference

 

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samarth saxena

hi swapnil

this question cannot be done by VN method!!!!

see and guess why this question is not done by VN method

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Swapnil Saxena

@ Samarth : No Idea??? Why... Tell me. Is there is something wrong. This is wht u told me.

@ Sathyaram : Good Friendship, attempts, courage, and hard labour always pays...

@ Jit: Sathyaram is right... but I wanna further extend . Not just the series like tht but like

a1a2a3a4a5+ a2a3a4a5a6 +a3a4a5a6a7 .... or 1/a1a2a3a4a5+ 1/a2a3a4a5a6 + 1/a3a4a5a6a7 ....  like difficulties can be solved by this method  

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Ashwin Muralidharan IIT Madras

Hi Guys,

 

This question can definitely be solved using the Vn method.

S = Σ(4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11), r=1,2,3,....n.

So Tr = (4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)

and let Vr = (4r-5)(4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)

hence, Vr+1 = (4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)(4r+15)

 

So Vr+1 - Vr = 20xTr.

Hence Σ(Vr+1 - Vr) = 20*S

Hence S = (1/20)*[Vn+1 - V1] = (1/20)*[(4n-1)(4n+3)(4n+7)(4n+11)(4n+15) + 3.7.11.15] ------- (Required Answer).

 

Regards,

Ashwin (IIT MadraS).

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Jit Mitra

Agree with swapnil. Lemme try to generalize it for u.

 

S = a1a2a3a4a5....ar + ar+1ar+2ar+3ar+4....a2r +    ..............  + an-r+1an-r+2an-r+3......an

 

Tn = an-r+1an-r+2an-r+3......an

 

Vn = anan+1an+2......an+r-1an+r

(Take an extra Last Term in Vn)

 

Vn-1 = an-1anan+1......an+r-2an+r-1

 

Vn - Vn-1 = anan+1an+2......an+r-1 [an+r - an-1 ] = Tn[an+r - an-1 ] = Tn [{a1 + (n+r-1)d} - {a1+ (n-2)d}] = Tn [(r+1)d]

 

or, Tn = 1/[(r+1)d] * [Vn - Vn-1]

 

Now put n=1,2,3,....,n and add.

 

T= 1/[(r+1)d] * [V1 - V0]

T= 1/[(r+1)d] * [V2 - V1]

T= 1/[(r+1)d] * [V3 - V2]

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T= 1/[(r+1)d] * [Vn - Vn-1]

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S = 1/[(r+1)d] * [Vn - V0]

 

From here you can find the sum easily.

 

Similarly for the sum of reciprocals, Take one term less for Vn .

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Sathya

@ Ashwin Sir,

Thanks for ur answer and ur answer is correct...

 

But, How could u assume that "let Vr = (4r-5)(4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)"?

 

And where did (4r-5) go in this equation? :

Vr+1 = (4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)(4r+15)

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Ashwin Muralidharan IIT Madras

Dude,

 

Enna idhu Sir lam... :P

Seri adhe vidu.

 

Vr is assumed based on the Tr.

In Vr we assume one more term in the start.

 

If Vr = (4r-5)(4r-1)(4r+3)(4r+7)(4r+11)

then replace r by r+1 in this to get Vr+1.

Hence you get Vr+1.

 

Regards,

Ashwin (IIT Madras).

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Sathya

Pingilikka pillaaapi ,Summa said.

 

Can u do this without Vn method ?I am kinda new to this and not feelin comfortable...

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Ashwin Muralidharan IIT Madras

Dude,

 

Then please get comfortable with it.

It is really easy.

 

Regards,

Ashwin (IIT Madras),

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Sathya

Periya manishan,Neenga solitengala.......Ill get comfortable  :)  Laughing  

 

And also,I have send u sme mails in gmail......Pls look at it

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Ashwin Muralidharan IIT Madras

Dude,

 

Done!!

Hope that you take those mail replies seriously. Now you prepare and do your Boards well.

 

You can think about your 11th Std after your exams :).

Wish you all the best.

 

Regards,

Ashwin (IIT Madras).

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Sathya

Oh k.Thnks.I have sent u  reply....Pls look at it and dont forget to c mokkais ! Tongue out

And in Biology CBSE,

I dont understsnd these mendels cross breeding,dominant,recessice...Could u just help me out... :)

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